Warmboot of VM is not working (bootloop) but coldboot is working?

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Warmboot of VM is not working (bootloop) but coldboot is working?

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Hi!

I have a Windows 2016 Essentials VM an when I am doing a restart of this VM because of an Windows Update or something like that the VM is hanging in an endless bootloop.
If I am switching the VM hard to off and start then, everything is working fine and the VM finds the HD to boot.

This is what I see inside the bootloop:
Bootloop.png
Does someone know this problem and has a solution to it?

Before I used the same VM on a TS-453A without any problems.

Used versions on a QNAP TS-453Be:
Firmware: 4.3.4.0644 Build 20180710
Virtualization Station: 3.1.51 (1018-03-28)
Windows Server 2016 Essentials 64bit 1607 Build 14393.2395
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Re: Warmboot of VM is not working (bootloop) but coldboot is working?

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Hmmmm I would start with what your VM Settings are for Storage, and also how current your VM Guest drivers are.
Paul

Model: TS-877-1600 FW: 4.5.3.x
QTS (SSD): [RAID-1] 2 x 1TB WD Blue m.2's
Data (HDD): [RAID-5] 6 x 3TB HGST DeskStar
VMs (SSD): [RAID-1] 2 x1TB SK Hynix Gold
Ext. (HDD): TR-004 [Raid-5] 4 x 4TB HGST Ultastor
RAM: Kingston HyperX Fury 64GB DDR4-2666
UPS: CP AVR1350

Model:TVS-673 32GB & TS-228a Offline[/color]
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Re: Warmboot of VM is not working (bootloop) but coldboot is working?

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I am using these settings for the VM (I used the same on the TS-453A):
iTunesServer.png
I don't think that the VM Guest drivers have something to do with it, because the reboot happens in BIOS and not in Windows. I think the Virtualization station (the BIOS) did not find the harddisk image.
Here are the versions used:
iTunesServerDriver.png
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What do you have the OS type set to?

Try dropping CPU to 2.
I would also set the cache mode to writeback assuming you have a UPS>
The drivers are fairly old, here is the link to the newest virtio drivers: https://fedorapeople.org/groups/virt/vi ... io-win.iso
Paul

Model: TS-877-1600 FW: 4.5.3.x
QTS (SSD): [RAID-1] 2 x 1TB WD Blue m.2's
Data (HDD): [RAID-5] 6 x 3TB HGST DeskStar
VMs (SSD): [RAID-1] 2 x1TB SK Hynix Gold
Ext. (HDD): TR-004 [Raid-5] 4 x 4TB HGST Ultastor
RAM: Kingston HyperX Fury 64GB DDR4-2666
UPS: CP AVR1350

Model:TVS-673 32GB & TS-228a Offline[/color]
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Re: Warmboot of VM is not working (bootloop) but coldboot is working?

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The OS type is set to "Windows" and the version to "Windows Server 2016", the same as on my TS-453A.

I set it to 2 CPU. But this changes nothing.

I have no UPS, so I will not switch the mode to writeback. But I tested it and it changes nothing!

The drivers can not be the problem, as they are not active in BIOS! But I updated them (most of them were actual, but in Software control panel they are not correctly shown:
Here is software control panel where you can see the guest agent:
Versionen.png
Here are the other versions:
VirtioSCSI.png
VirtioBallon.png
VirioEthernet.png
virtioscsidev.png
virtioqxl.png
But all of these changes nothing, the bootloop is still there!
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Re: Warmboot of VM is not working (bootloop) but coldboot is working?

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Try changing Storage controller back to IDE or SATA for HDD and see if that makes any difference.
Paul

Model: TS-877-1600 FW: 4.5.3.x
QTS (SSD): [RAID-1] 2 x 1TB WD Blue m.2's
Data (HDD): [RAID-5] 6 x 3TB HGST DeskStar
VMs (SSD): [RAID-1] 2 x1TB SK Hynix Gold
Ext. (HDD): TR-004 [Raid-5] 4 x 4TB HGST Ultastor
RAM: Kingston HyperX Fury 64GB DDR4-2666
UPS: CP AVR1350

Model:TVS-673 32GB & TS-228a Offline[/color]
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Re: Warmboot of VM is not working (bootloop) but coldboot is working?

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No, it makes no difference! :-(

The strange thing that it worked on the TS-453A on an external USB SSD without any problem. I had not seen any problem like this.
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Re: Warmboot of VM is not working (bootloop) but coldboot is working?

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Hi!

Finally I found the solution! In the meantime I installed a new Windows 10 VM and a new Windows Server 2016 VM and tested and tested and tested.
It has nothing to to with QEMU-Tools installed or not or VirtIO-drivers installed or not.
It only happens with Server 2016, not with Windows 10!

The solution can be found in the general settings for a VM. There you can choose between "Passthrough" or "Intel Core i7" for the CPU:
CPUPass.png
or
CPU.png
If you choose "Passthrough" you have the problems and if you choose "Intel Core i7" also Windows Server 2016 makes a warmboot without any problems.

Again: It has nothing to to with installed drivers etc. inside the Windows VM!

I hope this solution helps other people having the same problem!
Thanks for your help!
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Re: Warmboot of VM is not working (bootloop) but coldboot is working?

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Must be specific to i7 or something else on your configuration, Win2016 Std warm boot works just fine on my system with Passthrough.
Paul

Model: TS-877-1600 FW: 4.5.3.x
QTS (SSD): [RAID-1] 2 x 1TB WD Blue m.2's
Data (HDD): [RAID-5] 6 x 3TB HGST DeskStar
VMs (SSD): [RAID-1] 2 x1TB SK Hynix Gold
Ext. (HDD): TR-004 [Raid-5] 4 x 4TB HGST Ultastor
RAM: Kingston HyperX Fury 64GB DDR4-2666
UPS: CP AVR1350

Model:TVS-673 32GB & TS-228a Offline[/color]
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Re: Warmboot of VM is not working (bootloop) but coldboot is working?

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Win2016 Std warm boot works just fine on my system with Passthrough
Do you have a TS-453Be?
It had also worked here with a TS-453A without any problems.
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Re: Warmboot of VM is not working (bootloop) but coldboot is working?

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iMactouch wrote: Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:25 pm Hi!

Finally I found the solution! In the meantime I installed a new Windows 10 VM and a new Windows Server 2016 VM and tested and tested and tested.
It has nothing to to with QEMU-Tools installed or not or VirtIO-drivers installed or not.
It only happens with Server 2016, not with Windows 10!

The solution can be found in the general settings for a VM. There you can choose between "Passthrough" or "Intel Core i7" for the CPU:
CPUPass.png
or
CPU.png

If you choose "Passthrough" you have the problems and if you choose "Intel Core i7" also Windows Server 2016 makes a warmboot without any problems.

Again: It has nothing to to with installed drivers etc. inside the Windows VM!

I hope this solution helps other people having the same problem!
Thanks for your help!
Damn, thank you! Many many many thanks.
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