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TS-470 Pro 4K?

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Hello All,

I bought my QNAP about a year ago and was wondering if anyone know if the TS-470 pro is capable or 4K resolution/streaming? I have my QNAP connected with Kodi and would like to know if I can stream 4k videos or play 4k videos from the NAS? If not is there a way to upgrade it to give it the capability or this is a long shot but does QNAP have a upgrade program? Thanks for your help.
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Re: TS-470 Pro 4K?

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are you running kodi on the qnap ..or external kodi connecting to the qnap ?
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Re: TS-470 Pro 4K?

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dolbyman wrote:are you running kodi on the qnap ..or external kodi connecting to the qnap ?

I'm Running Kodi on the QNAP. I notice in the Settings you can only go up to 1080p in both the qnap and kodi settings
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I would just buy external streaming boxes and be done with it..use the qnap as the server
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Re: TS-470 Pro 4K?

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Hi All

Just seei g if anyone can confirm TS-470 pro 4k movie play back. Can this be done via HDMI if receiver and TV support 4k? Or via LAN stream? Or via external 4k stream box pulling the file?

I'm looking to expand my NAS but now don't know if I should get the RAID expansion or go with another NAS that can handle 4k?

I have 4k tv/reciever but no 4k files yet. So cannot test.

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4k can come in different codecs (mostly x265 hevc)

that i3 should handle most decoding ...but as said before ...unloading this to external devices will save you grief
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dolbyman wrote:4k can come in different codecs (mostly x265 hevc)

that i3 should handle most decoding ...but as said before ...unloading this to external devices will save you grief
Thankyou very much for the guidance, really appreciated. Whilst I was planning on upgrading the i3, I think I will explore external options for flexibility.

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Re: TS-470 Pro 4K?

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It's unlikely it will handle full 10bit 4K

If you want a device that will handle them with no problem at all and all the audio, look into the latest Intel NUCS whch can handle 10bit.

http://nucblog.net/
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or just a cheap android player ...I have one .. decodes 10bit hevc fine ..was 80dollars
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... a lot simper too. . you don't need the NAS by the tv..... easier to serve multiple sets too
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Re: TS-470 Pro 4K?

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Thanks for the guidance guys. These options really help. Still trying to learn what is capable of the specifications i have in my setup.

Whilst i understand it is best to buy a capable device (I very much plan on this very soon), particularly to serve up full 10bit 4k, i was surprised to stumbled upon the smooth playback of an 8bit test movie (below). The test was simply via my Hisense 75m7000UWD DLNA playback (thank you gigabit). The movie, was one of 2 branded 4k downloads, which would not play back using the HDMI connection (assuming all my HDMI ports are not HDMI 2, but cables are). But they played fine with the tv pulling it.

These are compressed and not proper 4k. But what this tells me is that i may be ok doing the same with proper 4k files because of the gigabit lan, and more importantly, if it doesn't i have the device options. Which means i can simply get on with expanding my current NAS which was my reasoning for asking all this. Just awesome. Money saved!

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Re: TS-470 Pro 4K?

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My 470 Pro is running Plex server. My LG TV has the Plex client and plays 4K video (h265) from the NAS just fine.
However playing 4K movies in Kodi causes stuttering. This also doesn't make sense because the NAS doesn't have a 4K HDMI.
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Re: TS-470 Pro 4K?

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cpu is probably too weak for software decoding

did you try enabling subtitles via plex on a 4k title?..that should start stutter
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Re: TS-470 Pro 4K?

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You know you can download 4k samples right??? http://4ksamples.com/ This site has different bitrate videos to try out.
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Re: TS-470 Pro 4K?

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dolbyman wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:29 pm cpu is probably too weak for software decoding

did you try enabling subtitles via plex on a 4k title?..that should start stutter
I'm playing 4K video with DTS audio and external subtitles from the TS-470 Pro on a LG TV with the Plex client app and it works fine. CPU is only around 20% because it doesn't need to do any transcoding. The first few minutes the CPU was around 96% but the NAS is also running a backup job at the same time and there was a lot of HDD activity.

However, I cannot play the same file on my iPad in the Plex app because the NAS's CPU is to weak to do the live transcoding.
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