TVS-472XT CPU Upgrade

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Re: TVS-472XT CPU Upgrade

Post by dwadj » Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:04 am

Yes it's removable, it's in a socket, did the same thing for my TS-670 (i7-3770s)
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Re: TVS-472XT CPU Upgrade

Post by dpbattaglia » Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:25 am

Hi,

I have an old 2 disk Qnap model and looking at this for replacement. Just out of curiosity what is the MOBO in the TVS-472XT?

Do Qnap manufacture their own or use third-party?

Also how does the pentium cpu relate to the i3/i5/i7 chipsets that they are hot swap-able I would've thought they were different chipsets - requiring a different MOBO.

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Re: TVS-472XT CPU Upgrade

Post by rgarjr » Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:47 am

i would think they design and mfg their own boards.

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Re: TVS-472XT CPU Upgrade

Post by dwadj » Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:16 am

All x72 have the same board.
The difference between the models is the case, memory and used cpu. (and of course the price !)
Who does manufacture them, no idea, but it's OEM board specific for those models.
It has a socket 1151 so you can but all compatible cpu's in it (T versions), bios supports it.
Have a look @nascompares for some inside pictures....
https://nascompares.com/2019/01/26/the- ... -unboxing/
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Re: TVS-472XT CPU Upgrade

Post by irev210 » Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:21 am

8700t works fine for me if anyone is curious

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Re: TVS-472XT CPU Upgrade

Post by rgarjr » Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:05 am

irev210 wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:21 am
8700t works fine for me if anyone is curious
what's the performance differences from that Pentium?

TS-1677x-1700 64GB Kingston HyperX 2666MHz | 4 x 860 EVO 500GB | Corsair SF600 PSU | 3 x NF-A9 | NH-L12 cooler with NF-A12x25 | 6 x NF-A6 | Emulex 10GbE (Dual SFP+)
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TVS-682-i7-7700 64GB Kingston HyperX 2666MHz | 1 x 860 EVO 1TB | Corsair SF450 PSU | 1 x NF-A8 | 4 x NF-A6 | NH-L12 cooler with NF-A12x25 | Emulex 10GbE (Dual SFP+)
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Re: TVS-472XT CPU Upgrade

Post by chanquete69 » Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:41 am

Anyone know if the bigger 6 (i3-8100T) and 8 bay (i5-8400T) stock CPUs also work in 472? Thank you!

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Re: TVS-472XT CPU Upgrade

Post by jaysona » Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:44 am

chanquete69 wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:41 am
Anyone know if the bigger 6 (i3-8100T) and 8 bay (i5-8400T) stock CPUs also work in 472? Thank you!
Yes, those CPUs should work. The TVS-472xt, 672xt and 872xt all use LGA1151 family CPU and have the same motherboard. The i3-8100T and i5-8400T CPU's are the same internally and all are made from the same silicon wafer. All CPU's have defects, these defects are discovered during the testing and "binning"process where it is decided which type of CPU the silicon will be sold as. In some cases fuses are burnt which limits the cores recognized, hyperthreading capability, overclocking, voltages etc.

This type of practice has been going on for more than a decade, ever since the AMD released its first dual-core Athlon 64 X2 CPU to the market.
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Re: TVS-472XT CPU Upgrade

Post by jaysona » Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:51 am

Does anyone know what the wattage of the PSU for the 472xt is? I'd like to have an idea of how much headroom there is for a config of 4x12TB disks along with a core i7-8700 and 32Gig RAM.
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Re: TVS-472XT CPU Upgrade

Post by dolbyman » Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:54 am

according to
https://www.qnap.com/en/product/tvs-472 ... s/hardware
Power Supply Unit 250W, 100-240V

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Re: TVS-472XT CPU Upgrade

Post by jaysona » Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:08 am

dolbyman wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:54 am
according to
https://www.qnap.com/en/product/tvs-472 ... s/hardware
Power Supply Unit 250W, 100-240V
Thanks, but that is rather anemic, I 'll have to see about upgrading the PSU to a 350W at least.

I had to do the same for both of my TS-670 units, one of them kept rebooting under heavy use. *sigh*
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Re: TVS-472XT CPU Upgrade

Post by ryan.nuo » Sat May 11, 2019 6:48 pm

Grantys wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:06 am
Is it possible to upgrade the stock CPU to an i5 or i7 one for this model?
Yes, I can confirm that the Intel Core i7 8700T CPU can be used in this model. I have successfully upgraded my QNAP TVS-474XT from its original Intel Pentium Gold CPU to the Intel Core-i7 8700T CPU.

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Re: TVS-472XT CPU Upgrade

Post by ryan.nuo » Sat May 18, 2019 3:26 pm

jaysona wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:51 am
Does anyone know what the wattage of the PSU for the 472xt is? I'd like to have an idea of how much headroom there is for a config of 4x12TB disks along with a core i7-8700 and 32Gig RAM.
I have upgraded the CPU of my TVS-472XT to Intel Core i7 8700T with the following configurations and there is no issue at all with the original power supply that come with the NAS.

CPU: Intel Core i7 8700T
HDD: 4 x 14TB Seagate Iron Wolf Pro (RAID 1)
Expansion Card: QNAP QM2-2P-384 Dual M.2 2280/22110 PCIe SSD Expansion Card
PCIe SSD: 4 x 2TB Samsung EVO 960 Pro PCIe SSD (two on motherboard + two on the QM2-2P-384 PCIe Card).

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Re: TVS-472XT CPU Upgrade

Post by pbatey7 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:26 pm

Hi, I've had a TVS-472XT for a while now I successfully upgraded it to an I7-8700T but has people say they are very hard to get a hold of.

The CPU performs very well and does not overheat and with the boosted 6 cores and hyperthread technology it's not really noticeable that it can't use the CPU turbo past its 2.4Ghz base clock speed.

But that said I have also tested an i7-8700K in this NAS and it also performed very well indeed. I didn't ever push its limits other than running a few Virtual Machines and using the NAS as a Media server for 1080P and 4K content but it still never got that hot. I also had 4 x 3.5" Ironwork NAS disks in it so that in itself produces its own heat but was still fine.

So from this I'd say if you use the NAS like me and would love the extra base clock speed of a huge 3.7Ghz as opposed to the 2.4Ghz all with 6 cores 12 threads then pop the i7-8700K in. There are still the options of putting the standard i7-8700 at a lower base of 3.2Ghz but its up the individual. I settled for the 8700T as I like its rareness and I never need to worry about overheating (even though in the 8700K I never had a problem.

I've also tested running the QM2 NVMe cards in this and running a VM on a pair of raided 970 M.2 SSD's works well but weirdly only speed tests via the VM itself at about 1GB per second when I'd have expected up to 7GB a second... not sure if this is a limitation on VM's or Virtualstation on QNAP's but just in case anyone like me fancied the hugh speed potential, its not there!

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Re: TVS-472XT CPU Upgrade

Post by pbatey7 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:35 pm

Just to add as well that I've had and upgraded QNAP models TVS-682 & 882 and those models have replaceable power supply units as they take SFX (with an adapter from eBay) so if anyone is planning on building and upgrading a QNAP with CPU's and graphics cards those models are better than the new 472XT as much as I like it.

Its hard when sourcing a 682/882/1282 and trying to find a one with the newer motherboard that supports the 7th Gen CPU's but its normally the ones with the newer white/purple sticker on the front of the NAS and obviously if the descriptions says it has a 7th Gen CPU in it like the 7100, 7500 or 7700.

Both the 472XT and x82 series nas had M.2 SSD ports but the 472XT M.2 ports are NVMe (limited to about 2GB per second but still faster than 500GB of standard sata/M.2)

I remember buying my first TVS-682 with a Pentium CPU in it for about £850 :( oh boy do I wish I knew they'd stop selling that one and prices go up past £1200 otherwise I'd have bought more and defo kept one.

I am on the look out for another QNAP project but with prices so high I'm still on the hunt for a bargain! :D

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