I have purchased a QNAP 853 Pro with Ram upgraded to maximum capacity. I also have a UX-800P.
I have 2 X Samsung 860 Evo 250GB for Cache and 14 x Nas Red 10TB hard drives.
I am operating the drives in trunk mode 802.3ad with Cat 6a cables and Dune 4K media player. My main function of the storage is to store and stream 4k and Blu-ray movie content.
I would like to clarify a question:
If I setup the volume as a static volume on raid 5 with the 2 SSD drives for cache will the system see the two units as 1 combined static volume of 14 x 10TB drives on raid 5.
I would appreciate advice on the setup of the two units that Static is the right choice rather than thick or thin volumes.
Space is important to me and read speed. I would plan to have some 4K Premiere Pro editing projects on the go too.
Thank You
QNAP TS-853 Pro & UX 800P
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Re: QNAP TS-853 Pro & UX 800P
ts-853 pro is going EOL in 2022-06
https://www.qnap.com/en/product/eol.php
though at least it's still getting qts 4.4.1 which is the latest beta. or 4.3.6 stable.
Hope you got a good deal price for it at least to make it worthwhile? after EOL, you could probably replace the qts with unraid like what this guy did
https://forums.unraid.net/topic/79537-u ... nap-9-bay/
https://www.qnap.com/en/how-to/knowledg ... ck-volume/
14 hdds in a single volume raid? not sure that raid5 is going to cut it for that many hdds due to failure rate.
https://wintelguy.com/raidmttdl.pl
https://www.servethehome.com/raid-calcu ... tdl-model/
https://www.memset.com/support/resource ... alculator/
https://www.qnap.com/en/product/eol.php
though at least it's still getting qts 4.4.1 which is the latest beta. or 4.3.6 stable.
Hope you got a good deal price for it at least to make it worthwhile? after EOL, you could probably replace the qts with unraid like what this guy did
https://forums.unraid.net/topic/79537-u ... nap-9-bay/
https://www.qnap.com/en/how-to/knowledg ... ck-volume/
14 hdds in a single volume raid? not sure that raid5 is going to cut it for that many hdds due to failure rate.
https://wintelguy.com/raidmttdl.pl
https://www.servethehome.com/raid-calcu ... tdl-model/
https://www.memset.com/support/resource ... alculator/
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Re: QNAP TS-853 Pro & UX 800P
Thank you for reply. I have generally found QNAP very reliable. I have 2 x TS-469 Pros still going strong and a TS-459 Pro11 .
I have stock of spare fans and power supplies and that is all generally that I have ever experienced to go faulty.
What is your view on the static volume would the firmware see the 14 x 10TB Drives as one volume?
Thank you for reply
I have stock of spare fans and power supplies and that is all generally that I have ever experienced to go faulty.
What is your view on the static volume would the firmware see the 14 x 10TB Drives as one volume?
Thank you for reply
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Re: QNAP TS-853 Pro & UX 800P
i don't have experience using that many hdds. but i already know that raid5 isn't going to cut it for that many.
my own setup is 4x4tb and 2 m.2 sata ssds.
2 x m.2 sata ssd (raid1) single static volume. Cachedev1 (QTS is installed here. I install QPKGS and active running apps on the ssd)
4x 4tb HDD raid5). Thick Volume (i can use snapshots with thick. lots of flexibility for thick). Cachedev2 (this is where i store my digital files. hdd is far cheaper than SSDs for this purpose)
1x SSD sata. Single static volume. Cachedev3 (i use this for VM)
my own setup is 4x4tb and 2 m.2 sata ssds.
2 x m.2 sata ssd (raid1) single static volume. Cachedev1 (QTS is installed here. I install QPKGS and active running apps on the ssd)
4x 4tb HDD raid5). Thick Volume (i can use snapshots with thick. lots of flexibility for thick). Cachedev2 (this is where i store my digital files. hdd is far cheaper than SSDs for this purpose)
1x SSD sata. Single static volume. Cachedev3 (i use this for VM)
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[Backup] QNAP TS-653A (Truenas Core) w. 4x 2TB Samsung F3 (HD203WI) RaidZ1 ZFS + 8gb ddr3 Crucial
[^] QNAP TL-D400S 2x 4TB WD Red Nas (WD40EFRX) 2x 4TB Seagate Ironwolf, Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-509 Pro w. 4x 1TB WD RE3 (WD1002FBYS) EXT4 Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-253D (Truenas Scale)
[Mobile NAS] TBS-453DX w. 2x Crucial MX500 500gb EXT4 raid1
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[Backup] QNAP TS-653A (Truenas Core) w. 4x 2TB Samsung F3 (HD203WI) RaidZ1 ZFS + 8gb ddr3 Crucial
[^] QNAP TL-D400S 2x 4TB WD Red Nas (WD40EFRX) 2x 4TB Seagate Ironwolf, Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-509 Pro w. 4x 1TB WD RE3 (WD1002FBYS) EXT4 Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-253D (Truenas Scale)
[Mobile NAS] TBS-453DX w. 2x Crucial MX500 500gb EXT4 raid1
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Re: QNAP TS-853 Pro & UX 800P
I did a quick search, does this help?
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viewtopic.php?f=25&t=140120&p=663663&hi ... 0P#p663667
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viewtopic.php?f=25&t=139980&p=662722&hi ... 0P#p662722
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[Backup] QNAP TS-653A (Truenas Core) w. 4x 2TB Samsung F3 (HD203WI) RaidZ1 ZFS + 8gb ddr3 Crucial
[^] QNAP TL-D400S 2x 4TB WD Red Nas (WD40EFRX) 2x 4TB Seagate Ironwolf, Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-509 Pro w. 4x 1TB WD RE3 (WD1002FBYS) EXT4 Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-253D (Truenas Scale)
[Mobile NAS] TBS-453DX w. 2x Crucial MX500 500gb EXT4 raid1
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[Backup] QNAP TS-653A (Truenas Core) w. 4x 2TB Samsung F3 (HD203WI) RaidZ1 ZFS + 8gb ddr3 Crucial
[^] QNAP TL-D400S 2x 4TB WD Red Nas (WD40EFRX) 2x 4TB Seagate Ironwolf, Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-509 Pro w. 4x 1TB WD RE3 (WD1002FBYS) EXT4 Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-253D (Truenas Scale)
[Mobile NAS] TBS-453DX w. 2x Crucial MX500 500gb EXT4 raid1
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Re: QNAP TS-853 Pro & UX 800P
Thanks for all your help, I have decided to buy another TS-853 PRO and sell expansion unit UX-800P. I will run as 2 static volumes on Raid 5. As technology changes I can always increase the drive size within the raid if required.