TL SATA JBOD & QXP SATA Cards support multi-lane SATA 6Gb/s transfer and NAS/PC storage expansion

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TL SATA JBOD & QXP SATA Cards support multi-lane SATA 6Gb/s transfer and NAS/PC storage expansion

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqJJS9fuUGI

since qts hero zfs is software, would it be possible for the zfs raid to be used on such a device? :'
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Re: TL SATA JBOD & QXP SATA Cards support multi-lane SATA 6Gb/s transfer and NAS/PC storage expansion

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Moogle Stiltzkin wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:00 pm ...since qts hero zfs is software, would it be possible for the zfs raid to be used on such a device?
Yes. QTS or Hero shouldn't matter.

It's great to see more external expansion alternatives that make more sense than USB-expansion.
RAID have never ever been a replacement for backups. Without backups on a different system (preferably placed at another site), you will eventually lose data!

A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.

All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!
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Re: TL SATA JBOD & QXP SATA Cards support multi-lane SATA 6Gb/s transfer and NAS/PC storage expansion

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sff cables... i'm not very familiar with this.

is this supposed to be something better than esata?

anyway i think they mentioned in the video it supports 6 Gb/s

@21:19 in the video
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Re: TL SATA JBOD & QXP SATA Cards support multi-lane SATA 6Gb/s transfer and NAS/PC storage expansion

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Moogle Stiltzkin wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:52 pm sff cables... i'm not very familiar with this.
SFF-8088 is external mini-SAS.
is this supposed to be something better than esata?

anyway i think they mentioned in the video it supports 6 Gb/s
As eSATA is just SATA with a different connector it comes in the standard SATA speeds of up to 6 Gb/s (though I would guess it was never more than 3 Gb/s when Qnap still offered eSATA).

These new external chassis connections mean 6 Gb/s per external disk bay. You'd need all SSDs to even come close to the maximum capacity.

I was very critical of the UX-800P because of the USB-bottleneck already with mechanical disks (in addition to it being overly expensive) but these new products should, at least in theory, have the same performance as internal storage bays (assuming the PCIe can keep up).
RAID have never ever been a replacement for backups. Without backups on a different system (preferably placed at another site), you will eventually lose data!

A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.

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