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Re: TS-x53D launched
u posted it before i did :} was busy with ff7 remake >_<: lel.... just finished by the way. doing hard mode now :/
quad core nice, better than duo core which i feel is dated in this day and age (amd ryzen proved that point to intel detriment)
i wonder though if there will ever be an amd ryzen alternative that competes directly with these intel celerons for the qnap nas models. that would be interesting to see.
https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-cpus
https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_c ... j4125-1076
2.5gbe is also a nice addition. perhaps this is going to be the new norm? at least on the qnap this began with the TVS-x872N series? but then you would need a switch that also supported beyond 1gbe though?
in the video they did point about motherboards AND switches that began coming out with 2.5gbe or more. Nice that they pointed this out :}
Interesting switches, so qnap has put some though in providing the NECESSARY switches for make best use of the 2.5gbe QNAP NAS'
this one in particular
QSW-1105-5T unmanaged switch with 5 x 2.5 gbe ports because it's not managed and it's not a 10gbe switch, i'm hoping that the price would be acceptable for budget builders. will have to wait and see.
and they also got these qna adapters that can make these multi gig work over usb 3.2 in case your old qnap model does not have this 2.5gbe/5gbe etc on it. I am assuming this would work on a pc as well would it? cause my desktop is rather old (intel ivy bridge).
the led and icon markings seem to be spot on.
hm 4 usb ports
from my own usage i've had to plug in a keyboard, mouse, and a flash drive. and i can imagine that 4th usb port being used for an external usb storage device. so 4 usb ports, should be alright for most
It doesn't sound like it natively supports m.2 ssds by default? (not sure on this, but i did not see this mentioned in the specs) but it can ADD support for it via the qm2 addon cards if later you decide you need 10gbe, or perhaps more m.2 ssd NVME slots.
ram slots says 2 slots (8gb) is that 8gbe per slot, or 8gb maximum in total supported?
benchmark transfer results in the youtube link
2.5gbe @ 27:55
TR-004 as a possible backup solution. Especially if you put in 4 hdds, it can do raid5. the alternative they mentioned also was a TL jbod series that uses a SFF-8088 multi sata interface ?
But if your backup can fit on 1 hdd, then you could just go for a external usb storage device with the capacity needed.
x53be replacement?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phSSEg47rRw
@0:20
but if they were similarly priced or better yet cheaper, i'd probly go for the x53D. cause why not, it's got the 2.5gbe already on it.
quad core nice, better than duo core which i feel is dated in this day and age (amd ryzen proved that point to intel detriment)
i wonder though if there will ever be an amd ryzen alternative that competes directly with these intel celerons for the qnap nas models. that would be interesting to see.
https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-cpus
https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_c ... j4125-1076
2.5gbe is also a nice addition. perhaps this is going to be the new norm? at least on the qnap this began with the TVS-x872N series? but then you would need a switch that also supported beyond 1gbe though?
in the video they did point about motherboards AND switches that began coming out with 2.5gbe or more. Nice that they pointed this out :}
Interesting switches, so qnap has put some though in providing the NECESSARY switches for make best use of the 2.5gbe QNAP NAS'
this one in particular
QSW-1105-5T unmanaged switch with 5 x 2.5 gbe ports because it's not managed and it's not a 10gbe switch, i'm hoping that the price would be acceptable for budget builders. will have to wait and see.
and they also got these qna adapters that can make these multi gig work over usb 3.2 in case your old qnap model does not have this 2.5gbe/5gbe etc on it. I am assuming this would work on a pc as well would it? cause my desktop is rather old (intel ivy bridge).
the led and icon markings seem to be spot on.
hm 4 usb ports
from my own usage i've had to plug in a keyboard, mouse, and a flash drive. and i can imagine that 4th usb port being used for an external usb storage device. so 4 usb ports, should be alright for most
It doesn't sound like it natively supports m.2 ssds by default? (not sure on this, but i did not see this mentioned in the specs) but it can ADD support for it via the qm2 addon cards if later you decide you need 10gbe, or perhaps more m.2 ssd NVME slots.
ram slots says 2 slots (8gb) is that 8gbe per slot, or 8gb maximum in total supported?
benchmark transfer results in the youtube link
2.5gbe @ 27:55
TR-004 as a possible backup solution. Especially if you put in 4 hdds, it can do raid5. the alternative they mentioned also was a TL jbod series that uses a SFF-8088 multi sata interface ?
But if your backup can fit on 1 hdd, then you could just go for a external usb storage device with the capacity needed.
x53be replacement?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phSSEg47rRw
@0:20
but if they were similarly priced or better yet cheaper, i'd probly go for the x53D. cause why not, it's got the 2.5gbe already on it.
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Re: TS-x53D launched
Hello all,
It looks a nice replacement for my TS-453be.
But checking specs for model TS-453D, this have 3 USB 2.0 ports and 2 USB 3.2 Gen 1 ports (1 front and 1 back)
Curently have 2 External HDDs connected to my TS-453be read USB 3.2 ports and not like connecting a permanet external HDD to front USB 3.2 port.
Another thing on QNAP Presentation said only mdel TS-243D have PCIe 2.0 expansion slot 2.0x4, the models TS-453D and TS-653D is 2.0x2 (slower, same as TS-453be).
In a photo in SPAN.COM show and strange 2.0 note on top of one of the blue usb ports on back
https://www.span.com/product/Qnap-Deskt ... 2-5G~72284
Could someone validate how many USB 3.2 ports have the model TS-453D???
Thanks a lot!!!
It looks a nice replacement for my TS-453be.
But checking specs for model TS-453D, this have 3 USB 2.0 ports and 2 USB 3.2 Gen 1 ports (1 front and 1 back)
Curently have 2 External HDDs connected to my TS-453be read USB 3.2 ports and not like connecting a permanet external HDD to front USB 3.2 port.
Another thing on QNAP Presentation said only mdel TS-243D have PCIe 2.0 expansion slot 2.0x4, the models TS-453D and TS-653D is 2.0x2 (slower, same as TS-453be).
In a photo in SPAN.COM show and strange 2.0 note on top of one of the blue usb ports on back
https://www.span.com/product/Qnap-Deskt ... 2-5G~72284
Could someone validate how many USB 3.2 ports have the model TS-453D???
Thanks a lot!!!
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Re: TS-x53D launched
in the video it showed 4 usb ports afaik
as for which of them are USB 3.2, you best check the video posted, it should be there?
as for which of them are USB 3.2, you best check the video posted, it should be there?
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[Main Server] QNAP TS-877 (QTS) w. 4tb [ 3x HGST Deskstar NAS & 1x WD RED NAS ] EXT4 Raid5 & 2 x m.2 SATA Samsung 850 Evo raid1 +16gb ddr4 Crucial+ QWA-AC2600 wireless+QXP PCIE
[Backup] QNAP TS-653A (Truenas Core) w. 4x 2TB Samsung F3 (HD203WI) RaidZ1 ZFS + 8gb ddr3 Crucial
[^] QNAP TL-D400S 2x 4TB WD Red Nas (WD40EFRX) 2x 4TB Seagate Ironwolf, Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-509 Pro w. 4x 1TB WD RE3 (WD1002FBYS) EXT4 Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-253D (Truenas Scale)
[Mobile NAS] TBS-453DX w. 2x Crucial MX500 500gb EXT4 raid1
Network
Qotom Pfsense|100mbps FTTH | Win11, Ryzen 5600X Desktop (1x2tb Crucial P50 Plus M.2 SSD, 1x 8tb seagate Ironwolf,1x 4tb HGST Ultrastar 7K4000)
Resources
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[Review] Moogle's TS-877 review
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[Backup] QNAP TS-653A (Truenas Core) w. 4x 2TB Samsung F3 (HD203WI) RaidZ1 ZFS + 8gb ddr3 Crucial
[^] QNAP TL-D400S 2x 4TB WD Red Nas (WD40EFRX) 2x 4TB Seagate Ironwolf, Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-509 Pro w. 4x 1TB WD RE3 (WD1002FBYS) EXT4 Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-253D (Truenas Scale)
[Mobile NAS] TBS-453DX w. 2x Crucial MX500 500gb EXT4 raid1
Network
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Re: TS-x53D launched
Have a look this detail of the back usb ports
One of the USB3 ports has a 2.0 note on top
One of the USB3 ports has a 2.0 note on top
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Re: TS-x53D launched
I'm not convinced that's a 2. It may be a 3.
But, it seems there are no higher definition pictures on the Internet for now.
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Follow-up: tried tweaking the original image via my iPhone.
I'm still not certain, but I'm leaning toward it being 3.0:
I'm still not certain, but I'm leaning toward it being 3.0:
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Re: TS-x53D launched
I just remembered to check for images again.
It looks like Rob @ NAS Compares has taken some new photos:
Yes, that's definitely a 2.0
The center is black - not blue, like in the earlier photo. Maybe QNAP are shipping some units with a blue center, so they're marking them as 2.0 so people don't think it's a 3.x ?
It looks like Rob @ NAS Compares has taken some new photos:
Yes, that's definitely a 2.0
The center is black - not blue, like in the earlier photo. Maybe QNAP are shipping some units with a blue center, so they're marking them as 2.0 so people don't think it's a 3.x ?
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Re: TS-x53D launched
that coloring of the USB socket is more pirate code ... no guidelines than law
Some of the DELL PC's I see, have black USB ports, but are USB 3.1 for sure (connector count on plug)
Some of the DELL PC's I see, have black USB ports, but are USB 3.1 for sure (connector count on plug)
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Re: TS-x53D launched
So, the user gets an unexpected "upgrade". No bad thing.
That's better than expecting 3.x visually but only getting 2.0 speed.
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Re: TS-x53D launched
My TS-653D-8G latest FW unit seem to run VERY hot as the fan speeds are not ramping in line with HDD temperatures. On a chilly winter night in Melbourne AU my Seagate Ironwolf 6TB drives were hitting 41c and the fan even when set on performance mode did not go above 800 rpm. The system was over 35c and CPU 56c.
Manually setting even 50% fan speed gives twice this performance and temperatures drop, and my 10 year old TS-659 keeps drives cooler and the fan ramps up much more intelligently. Switching from quiet/normal/performance mode did not seem to modify fan RPM behaviour in the face of hot HDD on a winters night. Running high RPM all the time is not ideal for longevity, nor is manually adjusting this day by day depending on ambient temperature.
There are fan test scripts in the FW file system so I suspect this has been a point of issue for the devs. Can only imagine the issues people will face in Summer months with this FW fan setup and and drives combusting. I hope QNAP can sort this out and ramp the fan more intelligently in a future FW update, I did raise a ticket but not sure it was taken particularly seriously given the potentially destructive nature of the issue.
So the TLDR: I would steer clear of these units until there is confirmation they have fixed the fan speed in line with temperatures lest you risk blowing out a HDD or two.
Manually setting even 50% fan speed gives twice this performance and temperatures drop, and my 10 year old TS-659 keeps drives cooler and the fan ramps up much more intelligently. Switching from quiet/normal/performance mode did not seem to modify fan RPM behaviour in the face of hot HDD on a winters night. Running high RPM all the time is not ideal for longevity, nor is manually adjusting this day by day depending on ambient temperature.
There are fan test scripts in the FW file system so I suspect this has been a point of issue for the devs. Can only imagine the issues people will face in Summer months with this FW fan setup and and drives combusting. I hope QNAP can sort this out and ramp the fan more intelligently in a future FW update, I did raise a ticket but not sure it was taken particularly seriously given the potentially destructive nature of the issue.
So the TLDR: I would steer clear of these units until there is confirmation they have fixed the fan speed in line with temperatures lest you risk blowing out a HDD or two.
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Re: TS-x53D launched
sadly, this unit only have 2 x usb3 ports and 3 usb2 ports. I user a lot usb3 ports (hdd, usb 1GB Lan) so is a NO GO for me this model .
Hope QNAP would include lots of usb3 of the next release of this family.
Hope QNAP would include lots of usb3 of the next release of this family.
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Re: TS-x53D launched
Steer clear of this unit, during cold days here in Australia the HDDs run way too hot and the fan speed is not adjusted well at all, but even at 100% the enclosure seems to have massive cooling challenges. I expect my drives to reach 50c+ in the heat of Summer. My previous 10 year old QNAP runs much cooler.