QNAP TS-453 Pro stuck on "SYSTEM BOOTING"
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Re: QNAP TS-453 Pro stuck on "SYSTEM BOOTING"
Im not glad to report that as of 15 minutes ago, I am also part of the "System Booting" Family.
Heard server reboot and got stuck.
I got it all apart already but dont see anything obvious...
my heart is filled with joy...not.,.
Heard server reboot and got stuck.
I got it all apart already but dont see anything obvious...
my heart is filled with joy...not.,.
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Re: QNAP TS-453 Pro stuck on "SYSTEM BOOTING"
Has anyone tried to rework the PCB by changing the CPU? I think Intel managed to fix the LPC issue in their D1 stepping. No idea how much that would cost.
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The fix is well documented in this thread - you won't find anything obvious by looking at the motherboard.compushark wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:05 pm Im not glad to report that as of 15 minutes ago, I am also part of the "System Booting" Family.
Heard server reboot and got stuck.
I got it all apart already but don't see anything obvious...
my heart is filled with joy...not.,.
You need to solder a 100 ohm resistor to pin #1 and one of the ground pins (I think it's #8 or #10). It has worked for the vast majority of folks in the thread.
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Re: QNAP TS-453 Pro stuck on "SYSTEM BOOTING"
which CPU does the TS651 have?
Am I right that the Celeron N3160 in general also have this LPC BUG? Then I should order a 100 ohm resistor in advance ...
Am I right that the Celeron N3160 in general also have this LPC BUG? Then I should order a 100 ohm resistor in advance ...
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QNAP specifications only say it's a Celeron, but not which one. You can use this command to find out:
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# cat /proc/cpuinfo
Yes, according to Wikipedia and this Intel document:Am I right that the Celeron N3160 in general also have this LPC BUG?
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/p ... update.pdf
See CHP49 and CHP51 in that document.
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Re: QNAP TS-453 Pro stuck on "SYSTEM BOOTING"
This review says J1800:
All -x51 series models use a 2.41 GHz Intel Celeron J1800 (Bay Trail D) dual-core processor
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Re: QNAP TS-453 Pro stuck on "SYSTEM BOOTING"
I will tell you from experience, the TS651 is impacted by this. Mine died weeks ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silvermont#Erratum
The LPC, USB and SD Card buses circuitry degradation issues also apply to other Bay Trail processors such as ... Celeron J1800 and J1750 series -- as those are based on the same affected silicon.
Model name: TS-653D
Firmware version: 4.5.3.1697 build 20210611
Volumes: EXT4, Encrypted volume
Previous: TS-651 dead by CPU bug
Firmware version: 4.5.3.1697 build 20210611
Volumes: EXT4, Encrypted volume
Previous: TS-651 dead by CPU bug
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thanks for the links and infos ...
my device is now nearly 3 years old; if the bug ever hits me I hope I can fix it with the help of this thread
my device is now nearly 3 years old; if the bug ever hits me I hope I can fix it with the help of this thread
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Re: QNAP TS-453 Pro stuck on "SYSTEM BOOTING"
Buy extended warranty if possible
QNAP TS-251+
2 x WD40FRX RED inside (2 x 4GB).
2 x WD40FRX RED inside (2 x 4GB).
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Wow - the 100 ohm resistor fix worked perfectly on my 5 year old 2 bay TS-251! Thanks all!
I want to replace it anyway, as I now don't trust it. But all the similar home models still use Atom or Celeron processors. Will they end up with the same failure eventually?
A $300-$400 NAS should last longer than 5 years. I checked Synology NAS's too, and it's the same with them (Atom & Celeron cpus).
I'm not willing to shut mine off when not in use, as it would be too much trouble to boot it up every time I wanted to use it, and it takes way too long.
I want to replace it anyway, as I now don't trust it. But all the similar home models still use Atom or Celeron processors. Will they end up with the same failure eventually?
A $300-$400 NAS should last longer than 5 years. I checked Synology NAS's too, and it's the same with them (Atom & Celeron cpus).
I'm not willing to shut mine off when not in use, as it would be too much trouble to boot it up every time I wanted to use it, and it takes way too long.
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Re: QNAP TS-453 Pro stuck on "SYSTEM BOOTING"
Do you have photo of your board with the resistor?
QNAP TS-251+
2 x WD40FRX RED inside (2 x 4GB).
2 x WD40FRX RED inside (2 x 4GB).
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Sorry. By the time I thought about doing that, I had already done the final reassembly of the unit.
However, my repair is similar to this one that soulcages01 posted just a few replies ago on Dec 12th:
download/file.php?id=32087&mode=view
Procedure-wise, I first soldered on some temporary leads to pins 1 & 10, so that I could more easily try different resistor values if necessary, with the daughter board mounted, and the drives plugged in. That turned out to be unnecessary, as the 100 ohm worked. So I disassembled it back down to the main board, removed the temp jumpers, and soldered on the resistor to the header, just like soulcages01. But if your model doesn't have the header, you'll have to solder directly to the board.
However, my repair is similar to this one that soulcages01 posted just a few replies ago on Dec 12th:
download/file.php?id=32087&mode=view
Procedure-wise, I first soldered on some temporary leads to pins 1 & 10, so that I could more easily try different resistor values if necessary, with the daughter board mounted, and the drives plugged in. That turned out to be unnecessary, as the 100 ohm worked. So I disassembled it back down to the main board, removed the temp jumpers, and soldered on the resistor to the header, just like soulcages01. But if your model doesn't have the header, you'll have to solder directly to the board.
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Re: QNAP TS-453 Pro stuck on "SYSTEM BOOTING"
Not that I blame QNAP for this, as it's Intel's bug, but just for a change, I'm going to try a Synology NAS, as I've never tried one before.
I ordered a DS720+. The CPU is Intel Celeron J4125 4-core 2.0 GHz, burst up to 2.7 GHz. It also has h/w encryption.
I'm assuming that post-C2000 CPUs are not subject to this particular failure (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silvermont#Erratum).
p.s. Special thanks to @Yippym (1st identified the Intel bug on this thread) and to @yujungchang (for the fix)!
I ordered a DS720+. The CPU is Intel Celeron J4125 4-core 2.0 GHz, burst up to 2.7 GHz. It also has h/w encryption.
I'm assuming that post-C2000 CPUs are not subject to this particular failure (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silvermont#Erratum).
p.s. Special thanks to @Yippym (1st identified the Intel bug on this thread) and to @yujungchang (for the fix)!