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Re: Brand New TVS-x82T!

Post by rgarjr » Sat May 23, 2020 11:45 pm

Sushanth.reddy wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 3:13 am
I am sorry if this has been discussed already.


Any idea if there is going to be an updated 1282T3 with the latest intel Processors, Its been a couple of years they have been refreshed? I am in market to buy one and I don't want to spend too much money on older hardware though it's powerful.
What's interesting is QNAP just made a video of 2 new models that look very similar to the TVS-x82, TS-686 and TS-886 with Xeon processors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRFkkf_M2n0

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Re: Brand New TVS-x82T!

Post by rafale » Sat May 30, 2020 2:53 am

Interesting indeed. Note that the Xeon CPUs are 27W and 40W lower powered CPU from the Broadwell architecture so essentially the same or actually a bit older than the initial TVS-x82 which was skylake... They just don't have an iGPU.
This all in spite of being released in Q2 or 2019.

I just took a look on amazon and was stunned by how expensive the NAS has become... COVID19 effect it seems.

Given the lack of update, I decided to add a GPU to mine...
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Re: Brand New TVS-x82T!

Post by P3R » Sat May 30, 2020 3:37 am

rafale wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 2:53 am
Given the lack of update, I decided to add a GPU to mine...
The update have been available for years, TS-X77. :wink:
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A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.

All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!

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Re: Brand New TVS-x82T!

Post by rafale » Sat May 30, 2020 3:43 am

P3R wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 3:37 am
rafale wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 2:53 am
Given the lack of update, I decided to add a GPU to mine...
The update have been available for years, TS-X77. :wink:
lol... true to some degree and I have considered it... but the incremental improvement vs the cost has prevented me from doing it.
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Re: Brand New TVS-x82T!

Post by P3R » Sat May 30, 2020 4:27 am

rafale wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 3:43 am
lol... true to some degree and I have considered it... but the incremental improvement vs the cost has prevented me from doing it.
I know, wait for the revamped Ryzen-line!
RAID have never ever been a replacement for backups. Without backups on a different system (preferably placed at another site), you will eventually lose data!

A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.

All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!

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Re: Brand New TVS-x82T!

Post by ainemorf » Sun May 31, 2020 5:41 am

Please excuse me but I was not able to understand if is it possible to swap i3 6100 processor of y QNAP 682T to i7 7700.
I already upgraded BIOS of my QNAP with QX77AT22 versione which support gives me but I don't know if this BIOS which is the last which I can flash on my NAS permits to install i7 7700.
The problem is to understand if is it possible to swap from 6th generation to 7th gneration of processor.
Please can someone help me to understand if can I do this?
Thanks a lot

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Re: Brand New TVS-x82T!

Post by vassoura » Sun May 31, 2020 6:30 am

ainemorf wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 5:41 am
Please excuse me but I was not able to understand if is it possible to swap i3 6100 processor of y QNAP 682T to i7 7700.
I already upgraded BIOS of my QNAP with QX77AT22 versione which support gives me but I don't know if this BIOS which is the last which I can flash on my NAS permits to install i7 7700.
The problem is to understand if is it possible to swap from 6th generation to 7th gneration of processor.
Please can someone help me to understand if can I do this?
Thanks a lot
As stated previously, you can, but it's not advisable because you might brick the unit... Stick to the generation of your product. If you have an i3-6100, you can use an i7-6700k. If your unit came with an i3-7100, you can use a i7-7700k. In both cases, you can use the "T" versions or the non "K" ones of these CPUs because they have a lower TDP and that's always good, since the unit lacks a little bit in terms of airflow.

So, theoretically, it should be possible, but unless I'm mistaken, nobody took the chance of bricking the unit. I haven't dared doing it myself... Another reason is that the i7-7700k's price is way too high for a Quad-Core CPU in 2020...
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- CPU: i7-6700K
- RAM: 32GB DDR4 Kingston HX434C19FRK2/32 (2x16GB 3466MHz@1.2v)
- COOLER: Noctua NH-L12 cooler
- FANS: 1x60mm NoiseBlocker fan, 1x60mm Noctua fan, 2x80mm Noctua fans, 1x92mm Noctua fan
- STORAGE: 2x500GB Crucial MX500 M.2 SSDs (RAID1 - VM duties), 2x500GB Samsung Evo 850 SSDs (RAID1 - Qtier), QM2-2P-344 with 2x500GB NVMe ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro M.2 (Caching), 4x3TB HDDs (RAID5 - Qtier)
- GPU: MSI GTX 1050 Ti LP
- PSU: SF450

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Re: Brand New TVS-x82T!

Post by peelos » Sun May 31, 2020 9:05 am

If you have already installed the bios then there should not be a bricking risk of trying a 7700K processor, it either works or it doesn't. Cannot confirm if the bios you stated supports 7th gen CPU or not though.

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Re: Brand New TVS-x82T!

Post by michalspl2000 » Fri Jun 19, 2020 2:09 am

Hi guys, subject is so long and a lot of pictures are missing.
I need a bit help.
I want upgrade my tvs-1282:
- CPU i3 to i7 6700k (max processor for it)
- probably cooler on cpu (any suggestions)
- exchange PSU 250W to I think sf600 600W (but I read that need to add something some cables -> mby im wrong)
- need exchange fans for "silence" (any suggestions)

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Re: Brand New TVS-x82T!

Post by okenny » Sat Jun 20, 2020 10:32 pm

Hi michalspl2000, I think you're really going to have to take the time to read through this long thread to learn how others upgraded.
If you have any specific questions, let us know.

You will need a QNAP PSU adapter cable (I got mine on Ebay, just search for it), and you will need a new CPU cooler for the i7-6700k (I have a Corsair unit but others have a Noctua).
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Re: Brand New TVS-x82T!

Post by michalspl2000 » Sun Jun 21, 2020 3:33 am

ok if u say so :) :

PSU sf600 https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Corsair-SF ... ondition=3 -> what I will need more ? without that?

for CPU I want buy that:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-i7- ... b02b92fc2d

for coooling cpu I think about Corsiar H5 SF watercooling but if I have m.2 with radiators I don't think will match so what you propose to put in ?

for silence FANs I read about Noctua, but right now I don't know which one pick... I can pick from: Noctua NF-A8 PWM vs FLX vs ULN they are very similar but ...

If i'm right I need 3 of them ...

mby on that stage (preaparing to upgrade) you will give me other propose like diferent fans/psu etc ;)

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Re: Brand New TVS-x82T!

Post by peelos » Sun Jun 21, 2020 3:36 am

All the info is earlier in the thread and also in my signature - even if it is a long thread it's a good one Image

M.2 with radiators you will have to test and let us know!

literally searched "PSU" in this thread and 4 posts back found this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Power-Supply-U ... 3030853128
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Re: Brand New TVS-x82T!

Post by rafale » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:28 pm

After years of playing with water-cooling, I can say now that I would not recommend it due to the maintenance needed and risks involved for a 24/7 machine. I opted to replace the heatsink with one of similar design but heftier and made out of copper. There are a lot of options for "passive 2U cooler" (Mine is a Dynatron Y506) involving copper and heat pipes up to 100W TDP. Technically with normal case airflow, these should not even need a CPU fan. I also replaced the blower fans with more powerful ones. I did not care so much about the noise and honestly it's not all that loud in my office.
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Re: Brand New TVS-x82T!

Post by immaculatec » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:43 pm

Hi,

I have been trying to find Noctua NH-L12 but no luck so far, so any suggestion would be appreciated. I would like to stick to air cooling..

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Re: Brand New TVS-x82T!

Post by rgarjr » Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:35 am

immaculatec wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:43 pm
Hi,

I have been trying to find Noctua NH-L12 but no luck so far, so any suggestion would be appreciated. I would like to stick to air cooling..
You're in luck cause the Noctua NH-L12 just got resurrected thanks to Louqe Ghost sffpc case. It is now called the NH-L12 Ghost Edition.
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TS-1677x-1700 64GB Kingston HyperX 2666MHz | 4 x 860 EVO 500GB [RAID5] | Corsair SF600 | 3 x NF-A9 | NH-L12 with NF-A12x25 | 6 x NF-A6 | 4 x WD 10TB | QM2-4P-384 (4 x 1TB ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro M.2 [RAID5]) | Emulex Oce11102-NX
TVS-682-i7-6700K 64GB Kingston HyperX 2666MHz | 1 x 860 EVO 1TB | Corsair SF450 | 1 x NF-A8 | 4 x NF-A6 | NH-L12 with NF-A12x25| 1 x 250GB 860 EVO M.2 | Emulex Oce11102-NX
TVS-682-i7-7700 64GB Kingston HyperX 2666MHz | 1 x 860 EVO 1TB | Corsair SF450 | 1 x NF-A8 | 4 x NF-A6 | NH-L12 with NF-A12x25 | 1 x 250GB 860 EVO M.2 | Emulex Oce11102-NX
TVS-682-i7-7700 64GB Kingston HyperX 2666MHz | 1 x 860 EVO 1TB | Corsair SF450 | 1 x NF-A8 | 4 x NF-A6 | NH-L12 with NF-A12x25 | 1 x 2TB Seagate | 1 x 250GB 860 EVO M.2| Emulex Oce11102-NX

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